On May 1, 1994, Mike Levin of the Commodore Stockholder's Movement
appeared on Compuserve to address the future of Commodore and the Amiga. 
What follows is a raw transcript of the conference.

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(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Ok... let me start with the formal stuff, I have a comment
 and then 
(1-23,Greg Knapp) start!
(1-52,Chris Lester) Since I call LD for a hook-up... I triple that.
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) I'll ask for a opening statement.
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Welcome one and all!
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Please welcome our guest Mike Levin, the spokesman for the
 Commodore
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Shareholders Movement (CSM).  He is here to answer questions
 in regards
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) to the current Commodore situation as he understands it. 
 As well as talk
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) a little about the past events.
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Please welcome Mike, this is his first public conference.
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Remember that this is a formal conference and that all 
 questions should
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) be presented to the moderator (me!) with a ? and wait to be
 recognized.
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Mike, do you have an opening statement?
(1-29,Mike Levin) yes
(1-29,Mike Levin) I will be typing it in real time so bear with me...
(1-29,Mike Levin) There will be no doom and gloom here tonight...        
(1-29,Mike Levin) Two of us will be answering questions- Marc Rifkin and
 muself...
(1-29,Mike Levin) We are long-time CSMers and have dedicated a great deal
 of time in trying
(1-29,Mike Levin) to effect Commodore's course.  Tonight we can speak on
 those activities...
(1-29,Mike Levin) and the activiteis we will continue to do...
(1-29,Mike Levin) We can not speak for Commodore and can not anwer
 questions on sales
(1-29,Mike Levin) figures and performance.
(1-29,Mike Levin) With that out of the way, let's start.
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) I am opening the floor for questions.
(1-8,Karl Kugel) ?
(1-87,Michael Shea) ?
(1-18,John Horton) ?
(1-46,John Gager) ?
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Karl go ahead
(1-6,Carl Hansen) ?
(1-3,Don Suhr) ?
(1-57,Mike Richard) ?
(1-75,Endre R Bujtas) ?
(1-86,BRIAN MORRIS) ?
(1-36,Paul Idol) ?
(1-30,Ezra Palmer-Persen) ?
(1-8,Karl Kugel) I thought it was interesting that the liquidation only
 covered the U.S. and
(1-8,Karl Kugel) parent companies, but seemed to leave the profitably
 European part alone. 
(1-8,Karl Kugel) Any comments?
(1-44,Joe Clasen) ? Who can buy the Amiga Chipset from the liquidators?
 The Highest Bidder?
(1-29,Mike Levin) It is so early.  Commodore is a big company with many
 divisions...
(1-29,Mike Levin) but the parts which are closing down are important
 parts...
(1-29,Mike Levin) including the factories.  When the supply runs out,
 even the European...
(1-29,Mike Levin) companies will not have Amigas to sell, but I don't
 think that that will
(1-29,Mike Levin) be for several months, at least.  GA
(1-25,Tim - GVP, Inc.) ?
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Micheal Shea... Go ahead.
(1-87,Michael Shea) What ever happened with regards to the meeting CSM had
 with CBM creditors?
(1-71,Gene Holmerud) ?
(1-95,Curtis Hendricks) ?
(1-29,Mike Levin) I met with them the beginning of April...
(1-29,Mike Levin) But, their official position was that as a lender, they
 only had certain
(1-22,stephen provost) ?
(1-29,Mike Levin) leagal remedies.  There was not much they could do.
(1-29,Mike Levin) I told them the things about Commodore which they did not
 know...
(1-29,Mike Levin) including the size of Commodore's market, their strengths
 in Europe...
(1-100,Lathal Ponder) [/q
(1-29,Mike Levin) and the potential of the technology, especially if
 Commdore were to...
(1-100,Lathal Ponder) [/q
(1-29,Mike Levin) take the critical step to license.  They were very
 interested in what...
(1-29,Mike Levin) I had to say, but they could not supply me with any new
 informantion...
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) John Horton.. Go ahead.
(1-18,John Horton) Will the Amiga line continue...by who(is anyone going to
 pick it up)?
(1-29,Mike Levin) That is the most important question.  There are several
 possibilities...
(1-29,Mike Levin) which most of you are already aware of.  It is my
 belief...
(1-29,Mike Levin) that no one will continue to make the Amigas which we
 are familiar with...
(1-29,Mike Levin) beyond what the existing supply of chips (Paulas, 8520's)
 will allow...
(1-29,Mike Levin) but instead, someone will pick up the technology and
 license it out to...
(1-33,Ottmar Roehrig) ??
(1-29,Mike Levin) anyone who wants it, and you will see an array of 
 Amiga-ish products...
(1-29,Mike Levin) including cable boxes, game machines, and an
 Amiga-on-a-card for PCs.  GA
(1-24, Sean - CD32View) ?
(1-111,Jay Goodwin) ?
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Carl Hanson.. go ahead
(1-6,Carl Hansen) Welcome Mike and thanks for all your work in the past. 
 What will a share of C= be worth tomorrow and then next week...? GA
(1-29,Mike Levin) Friday's news is definately bad for shareholders...     
(1-29,Mike Levin) First the large creditors will be paid back, then the
 smaller ones...
(1-29,Mike Levin) then the shareholders.  We probably won't see much at all
 when it's done.
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Don .. go ahead.
(1-3,Don Suhr) How much of C= is dead, and what remains? GA
(1-86,BRIAN MORRIS) I've always liked the Amiga and am not going to jump
 on the PC band wagon
(1-29,Mike Levin) Commodore consists of over 30 companies...              
(1-29,Mike Levin) The big parts are gone including Commodore International,
 Commodore 
(1-85,michael biddle) Is there an existing stock of Amiga products that can
 still be purchased?
(1-29,Mike Levin) Business Machines, and Commdore Electronics Limited...  
(1-29,Mike Levin) The rest are sales companies in the respective countries.
  I haven't
(1-29,Mike Levin) heard much news over the weekend beyond the ones that
 have already closed.
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Mike Richard.. Go ahead.
(1-18,John Horton) ?
(1-54,Trent Hawkins) ?
(1-57,Mike Richard) What do you think that this will all mean in the
 short-term for those of us...
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) I have 10 questions in the Queue .. make that 11.. let me
 put a hold on more questions for now.
(1-29,Mike Levin) In the short term, there will definately be a dry period,
 BUT...        
(1-91,William Cooper) +++
(1-29,Mike Levin) continue to buy 3rd party products from GVP, Macrosystems,
 Scala, etc...
(1-91,William Cooper) ATH0
(1-29,Mike Levin) so that when potential purchasers of the Amiga technology
 look at the...
(1-29,Mike Levin) market, they will see something good.  Above all else,
 the market must not...
(1-29,Mike Levin) be allowed to go away. 
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Endre... go ahead.
(1-105,Endre R Bujtas) What is the possibility of a class-action suit in
 behalf of the stockholders agaist M. A;li and the gang
(1-29,Mike Levin) A good one...                      
(1-29,Mike Levin) What is needed is a shareholder with enough of an 
 investment in the...
(1-29,Mike Levin) company and enough money to bring a class-action suit,
 and a top-notch
(1-29,Mike Levin) class-action lawyer who can prove that Commodore stock
 shoul be worth...
(1-29,Mike Levin) around $20 per share now if not for (I don't want to be 
 liable here)...
(1-29,Mike Levin) the inappropriate management.  GA
(1-20,MarkM/MOD)   Paul Idol.. go ahead.
(1-36,Paul Idol) What are CSM's plans and with whom are you working to
 put them into
(1-36,Paul Idol) effect?  In Mark's announcement of this CO he suggested
 that this 
(1-57,Mike Richard) ?
(1-36,Paul Idol) (the liquidation) might be the best thing ever to happen
 for the
(1-36,Paul Idol) Amiga.  This implies concrete knowledge.  My dealer things
(1-36,Paul Idol) thinks that CEI might be trying to take up the reins,
 but this is
(1-36,Paul Idol) just a rumour.  What is fact?  GA
(1-100,Scott Horn) send
(1-29,Mike Levin) Everything is rumor...                                    
(1-29,Mike Levin) The technogy will go to the highest bidder.  Now that
 Commodore management...
(1-29,Mike Levin) is gone, the horse has ben unhobbled.  This is what Mark
 is referring to,
(1-29,Mike Levin) but it is like rolling dice.  My plans are to talk to the
 people necessary...
(1-29,Mike Levin) so that the dice come up ACES for the users and
 developers...
(1-118,Amran Vance) send lxv hi
(1-29,Mike Levin) I think CEI might be able to get the factories running to
 make as many
(1-100,Scott Horn) ustatus
(1-29,Mike Levin) more Amigas as possible if they get a technology license,
 but it is not...
(1-29,Mike Levin) the most profittable venture in the world.  The best
 thing that can be done...
(1-29,Mike Levin) is to demonstrate demand by writing CEI with letters
 saying that you are
(1-29,Mike Levin) ready to buy more Amigas if they are able to build them.
  This is something
(1-29,Mike Levin) which they could "take to the bank."  Actual orders
 would be even better.
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Tim from GVP go ahead...
(1-25,Tim - GVP, Inc.) I have heard that one of the "final straws" on
 Commodore, was that they recently lost a
(1-25,Tim - GVP, Inc.) patent infringement suit based on Multiple-screen
 technology, one of the strong points of the
(1-25,Tim - GVP, Inc.) Amiga.  Is this true, and if so what kind of
 problems would it cause to a potential buyer of the
(1-25,Tim - GVP, Inc.) Amiga chip set?        
(1-29,Mike Levin) From my understanding, the people with the injunction...
(1-71,Gene Holmerud) pass
(1-29,Mike Levin) wanted a one-time payment which other companies have been
 able to pay...
(1-29,Mike Levin) and get on with business as usual.  If someone wants the
 Amiga technology,
(1-29,Mike Levin) this is just another expense which is part of the 
 investment they must make.
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-74,Mike Smith) ?
(1-22,stephen provost) ?
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Isn't injunction based on cursor ?
(1-29,Mike Levin) I don't know the particular nature of the patent.  I
 heard it might be the..
(1-29,Mike Levin) cursor.
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Gene .. go ahead.
(1-114,Andrew Farrell) ?
(1-64,Russ Finley) u
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Curtis... go ahead.
(1-44,Joe Clasen) ?
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Stephen Pro.. go ahead.
(1-22,stephen provost) what is scala's positiion now?
(1-29,Mike Levin) I can't speak for Scala.  Sorry.  GA
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Ottmar.. go ahead.
(1-33,Ottmar Roehrig) Don't you think that the professional Amiga-market
 will discontinue to...
(1-33,Ottmar Roehrig) exist _immediatly_? Which company will buy machines
 which are not being...
(1-33,Ottmar Roehrig) produced and repaired anymore by its maker? Have you
 heard any opinion from...
(1-33,Ottmar Roehrig) third-parties like GVP, Scala, NewTek, ASDG etc.? GA
(1-33,Ottmar Roehrig) Don't you think that the professional Amiga-market
 will discontinue to...
(1-33,Ottmar Roehrig) exist _immediatly_? Which company will buy machines
 which are not being...
(1-33,Ottmar Roehrig) produced and repaired anymore by its maker? Have
 you heard any opinion from...
(1-33,Ottmar Roehrig) third-parties like GVP, Scala, NewTek, ASDG etc.? GA
(1-29,Mike Levin) Unfortuantely, it is a confidence issue...
(1-29,Mike Levin) Sure, there are customers who will not buy computers
 made by a dissolved...
(1-29,Mike Levin) company, but there are also people who care about
 solutions more than...
(1-29,Mike Levin) support, so keep buying those A4000's which are in the
 channels...
(1-105,Endre R Bujtas) ?
(1-29,Mike Levin) And better than that,, write every magazine you know to
 tell them you...
(1-29,Mike Levin) are still buying Amigas, and that you will buy from
 whoever picks up...
(1-29,Mike Levin) the Amiga and that you look forward to the next
 generation Amiga, 
(1-29,Mike Levin) especially now that it has been liberated from management...
(1-25,Tim - GVP, Inc.) ?
(1-29,Mike Levin) this might be optimistic, but it will get some
 attention from potential...
(1-29,Mike Levin) technology investors.  The more optimistic and vocal you
 are,
(1-29,Mike Levin) the better your chances for the next generation Amiga,
 which might still
(1-29,Mike Levin) be something very special.
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-20,MarkM/MOD)  I am going to re-open the queue for questions.. send 
a ? if you want to ask Mikea question.
(1-22,stephen provost) ?
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Sean.. go ahead..
(1-24, Sean - CD32View) Is the CD32 able to be sold off or would that also
 require the whole chipset to be licensed?
(1-105,Endre R Bujtas) ?
(1-114,Andrew Farrell) ?
(1-111,Jay Goodwin) ?
(1-54,Trent Hawkins) ?
(1-44,Joe Clasen) ?
(1-74,Mike Smith) ?
(1-85,michael biddle) ??
(1-36,Paul Idol) ?
(1-8,Karl Kugel) ?
(1-57,Mike Richard) ?
(1-85,michael biddle) ??
(1-124,Steve Thompson) what, if anything has Newtek said?
(1-9,Mike Kennedy) b
(1-29,Mike Levin) In answer to Steve...
(1-29,Mike Levin) I have not talked to anyone from NewTek in months...
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) That is all the questions I can take...
(1-108,Andrew Olsen) go weather
(1-29,Mike Levin) But if I were them, I would do everything I could to
 ensure that a
(1-4,Dale Luketich) \
(1-29,Mike Levin) friendly and open party gets the Amiga technology who is
 open to
(1-108,Andrew Olsen) ?
(1-91,John Brozycki) ?
(1-29,Mike Levin) licensing.  I think that CD32s will only continue to
 be made if some
(1-29,Mike Levin) company sees it as profitable to do so.  It is a 
 long-shot...
(1-108,Andrew Olsen) exit
(1-29,Mike Levin) Instead, you might see a cable-box which is CD32-ish.
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Jay Goodwin.. go ahead.
(1-111,Jay Goodwin) I'm concerned about buyer for AmigaOS, the HW has been
 iffy...
(1-111,Jay Goodwin) but the OS is what I really want to see live on.
(1-111,Jay Goodwin) GA
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) What is your question--this sounds like a comment.
(1-111,Jay Goodwin) I would like to know if someone is interested in the
 OS.
(1-85,michael biddle) S>5<
(1-90,Donald Gross) T/exit
(1-29,Mike Levin) Hopefully, someone gets the technology who can take it
 from where...
(1-108,Andrew Olsen) +++ATH0
(1-29,Mike Levin) Commodore left off.  The Hardware and Software, I expect
 will be...
(1-29,Mike Levin) a package deal (but not necessarily).
(1-29,Mike Levin) I hope it is.
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-131,Bob Supak) ?
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) john horton.. go ahead..
(1-18,John Horton) What can be done to keep the Amiga line going?
 Impossible? (lets buy it!?)
(1-18,John Horton) Follow up ?
(1-29,Mike Levin) The only way the Amiga line as we know it will continue
 is if it is
(1-29,Mike Levin) profittable for a company to do so.  There will be
 studies of Commodore's
(1-29,Mike Levin) operations and profits.  The picture will look grim...
(1-29,Mike Levin) your job is to counter that effect.  Create demand. 
 Write letters...
(1-29,Mike Levin) to everyone you can think of who needs to know that you
 want Amigas!
(1-29,Mike Levin) This includes magazines.
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-18,John Horton) Can the GVP rep here make a comment. Mike It was CBMs
 marketing that ......
(1-18,John Horton) killed the machine (or lack of it)
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) GvP can make a comment in the open forum...
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Let me continue with the conference..
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Trent.. go ahead.
(1-54,Trent Hawkins) What parts of C= are dead? Specifically is C= Canada
 dead? or C= UK or C=
(1-54,Trent Hawkins) Germany?  GA
(1-29,Mike Levin) I was already asked that question.  It's too soon to
 tell.  Only Friday's
(1-29,Mike Levin) news about CIL, CBM and C=Elec.Ltd.
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-38,Steve Setzer) ?
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) It is my understanding if CIL (Commodore International)
 is gone.. all is gone.
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Andrew.. go ahead.
(1-130,Bob Eller) Yep
(1-29,Mike Levin) Probably true.
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-114,Andrew Farrell) Who are the mystery 'trustees' of Commodore's 
 assets? According to CEI, Commdore
(1-114,Andrew Farrell) subs. are all okay - inc. the very profitable
 Commodore U.K... Also, d the assets include
(1-114,Andrew Farrell) the factry n the Philipines?
(1-41,RalphR)    /
(1-41,RalphR) ?
(1-29,Mike Levin) The factory in the Philipines has not produced since 
 March...
(1-29,Mike Levin) I don't know who the trustees are going to be yet, but
 I certainly...
(1-41,RalphR) When will the bidding on technology begin and do you know
 of ANY prospective
(1-29,Mike Levin) plan on finding out and talking to them to make sure 
 they understand
(1-29,Mike Levin) the market and the investment opportunities.  It is an
 exciting and
(1-44,Joe Clasen) If Hayne went to work for Newtek, you think others would
 support A5000toast?
(1-29,Mike Levin) potentially lucrative alternative computer technology
 or core for 
(1-29,Mike Levin) a game machine.  It should go into the hands of someone...
(1-36,Paul Idol) !
(1-29,Mike Levin) who will want to maximize the investment.
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Paul.. a comment?
(1-93,tony butterfield) gogo basic
(1-36,Paul Idol) Yes, I just think that there is the distinct possibility
 that by the time
(1-36,Paul Idol) all the liscensing issues and investigations and so on
 are completed the
(1-93,tony butterfield) +++ATH0
(1-36,Paul Idol) Amiga technology will have fallen far enough behind the
 state of things that
(1-36,Paul Idol) potential investors will be less interested in getting
 on board than we
(1-36,Paul Idol) might think or hope.  So things should happen FAST.  GA
(1-43,Willie Schreurs) .sta
(1-114,Andrew Farrell) CEI indicated in their dealer newsletter they
 expected manufacturing to resume soon.
(1-114,Andrew Farrell) Do they know something we don't?  (The newsletter
 was faxed on Saturday) BTW, The
(1-114,Andrew Farrell) level of inventry in the U.K. warehouses will be
 critical to Paul's issue.
(1-29,Mike Levin) These proceedings don't happen fast, unfortunately.
(1-29,Mike Levin) The Amiga already has fallen behind in certain areas. 
 The value of the
(1-29,Mike Levin) Amiga technolgy is not in going up against clones, but
 in...
(1-29,Mike Levin) the kind of inexpensive boxes and devices you can make
 out of it for
(1-29,Mike Levin) running applications such as the Toaster and Scala...
(1-29,Mike Levin) This should be enough to attract companies interested 
 in making money
(1-109,Nancy Rose) ?  
(1-29,Mike Levin) by licensing the technology.  Don't forget the minimal
 amount of RAM
(1-131,Bob Supak) !
(1-29,Mike Levin) Amigas require compared to DOS machines.
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Joe.. go ahead.
(1-44,Joe Clasen) Are the big players talking or will they jump ship like
 Golddisk?
(1-66,larry julien) quit
(1-29,Mike Levin) What big players?  Amiga developers or large companies?
(1-66,larry julien) ?
(1-118,Amran Vance) [A
(1-44,Joe Clasen) Newtek or will phillips squash the whole thing?
(1-74,Mike Smith) I appreciate all your work Mike, you sound more than
 competent- I'm still
(1-66,larry julien) off
(1-29,Mike Levin) Good question!
(1-124,Steve Thompson) larry, try /x
(1-29,Mike Levin) I think NewTek will look for ways to get the technology.
 How could they not?
(1-29,Mike Levin) more...
(1-29,Mike Levin) I hope Phillips does not try to squash it, but it is a
 possibility.
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-34,Troy Barlow) Philips
(1-34,Troy Barlow) send 23 "I meant that"
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Mike Smith.. go ahead.
(1-74,Mike Smith) Thanks for your efforts Mike- I'm still bummed and NOT
 hopeful.
(1-29,Mike Levin) Question?
(1-74,Mike Smith) pass
(1-52,michael biddle) ?
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Michael Bi.. go ahead.
(1-29,Mike Levin) Ok.   Thanks for the appreciate.
(1-71,Gene Holmerud) ?
(1-52,michael biddle) What about inventory? Are Amiga products available
 anywhere?
(1-38,Steve Setzer) Mike what are your personel feelings about the future
 of C=?  And what kind
(1-91,John Brozycki) ?
(1-29,Mike Levin) Yes.  I can't answer much, but I am led to believe that
 the UK distributors
(1-29,Mike Levin) have stockpiled.
(1-114,Andrew Farrell) !
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Andrew.. go ahed with your comment..
?
(1-114,Andrew Farrell) According to the CEI newsletter, they have plenty
 of stock (current Saturday)
(1-29,Mike Levin) I hope that they do.  The people at CEI are resourceful.  
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Paul Idol.. go ahead.
(1-3,Don Suhr) ?
(1-36,Paul Idol) I understand your hope that we all buy Amiga products
 and announce 
(1-67,John) con:1
(1-36,Paul Idol) that we WILL buy them and so on, but how do you answer
 questions in the 
(1-36,Paul Idol) minds of buyers to the effect of "Where will we get parts
 and repairs?"
(1-29,Mike Levin) Good question...
(1-36,Paul Idol)  and "Why buy something that won't be upgraded?" and so
 on?  GA
(1-29,Mike Levin) It depends on the supply of parts.  I can only guess
 that part of the...
(1-60,Dean/DKB) !
(1-39,James Scott) !
(1-29,Mike Levin) responsibility of the trustees is to maintain the value
 of the products...
(1-124,Steve Thompson) !
(1-29,Mike Levin) and the market.  This is a hope, but responsible
 trustees should do
(1-29,Mike Levin) what they can to supply whatever parts might still be
 in warehouses.
(1-29,Mike Levin) Again, I admit that there will be a dry period and that
 an Amiga
(1-124,Steve Thompson) The part situation in th US can't be to good, I've
 been waiting 9 monts for
(1-124,Steve Thompson) my HD.
(1-29,Mike Levin) purchase now is only for the brave, but we all eat off
 of the same plate,
(1-23,Greg Knapp) << have a comment on the part/repairs thing
(1-29,Mike Levin) and only that kind of letter will do any good now.
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Dean, your comment?
(1-131,Bob Supak) ?
(1-60,Dean/DKB) When has Commodore ever supplied upgrades to the Amiga
 other than...
(1-36,Paul Idol) !
(1-22,stephen provost) ?
(1-60,Dean/DKB) requiring you to buy a new machine? The third party
 companys have done...
(1-103,Raymond R. Fortier) ?
(1-60,Dean/DKB) more in that respect than Commodore. As for parts, they
 have always been...
(1-60,Dean/DKB) available through the gray market if you know where to
 look!
(1-29,Mike Levin) I agree.  I see opportunity where others see danger. 
 That is the only way
(1-65,John Britton) w3/who
(1-29,Mike Levin) good will come of this.  Commdore has been unhobbled
 the hard way.
(1-29,Mike Levin) Third-party developers must pick up where Commodore
 left off.
(1-29,Mike Levin) And, they haven't actually been liquidated yet. 
(1-18,John Horton) !
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-112,bill arnold) ?
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) We are about to go open conference.. let me get Karl's
 question out of the way.  Then we can talk freely.
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Karl.. go ahead..
(1-8,Karl Kugel) Is there anything left at Westchester, and do you think
 work can be resumed on AA
(1-8,Karl Kugel) A?
(1-29,Mike Levin) Only 22 people (I'm told).  They are only likely to be
 there for a 
(1-29,Mike Levin) short while/.
(1-29,Mike Levin) more...
(1-29,Mike Levin) It is so hard to say about AAA, but I am as close to
 the heartbeat as
(1-29,Mike Levin) any outsider...
(1-124,Steve Thompson) Let's hope.  Thanks, Mike, gotta go. $$$ ;)
(1-12,IAM-Dale) !
(1-29,Mike Levin) I guess it is in the hands of whover buys the
 technology...
(1-29,Mike Levin) This won't be for several months and no kind of
 manufacturing will be
(1-29,Mike Levin) able to begin for months after that...
(1-131,Bob Supak) !?
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Dale Larson.. you have the last comment.. then a
 closing statement from Mike.
(1-12,IAM-Dale) Hey, don't people doing COs have to give something away?
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) and one from me.
(1-12,IAM-Dale) What is Levin giving away?  Useless stock?  :-)
(1-12,IAM-Dale) ga
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Thanks Dale. :-)
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Mike, closing comments?
(1-29,Mike Levin) Yes...
(1-23,Greg Knapp) !!!
(1-29,Mike Levin) The tradition of Commodore computers will only continue
 based on your
(1-29,Mike Levin) activities and letters and outcry in the coming weeks.
(1-29,Mike Levin) Let people know this market exist and wants to continue
 to exist...
(1-29,Mike Levin) Where there are customers, there are people who want
 to profit off of them.
(1-29,Mike Levin) Say things like "I would buy an Amiga even if it was
 more expensive"
(1-29,Mike Levin) Dollars talk.  Talk dollars.
(1-29,Mike Levin) Write AmigaWorld and Amazing and your newspaper and
 Forbes and Time and the Wall Street Journal.
(1-29,Mike Levin) Make a story out of this.
(1-29,Mike Levin) Be resourceful in figuring out who to write.
(1-29,Mike Levin) Don't hope for me to pull of some magical stunt.
(1-29,Mike Levin) All I can do is reinforce your message.
(1-29,Mike Levin) That's all.
(1-29,Mike Levin) GA
(1-44,Joe Clasen) Yeah,right.Who will make the Amiga Card Box for the
 IBM/MAC? AMIGA=OSBORNE!
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Ok.. I am going to open the floor for those developers
 who are represented here...
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) who may have a comment.
(1-39,James Scott) !
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) The first comment I have is from Jim Drew/ from Utilities
 Unlimited.
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Go Jim.
(1-105,Jim Drew/UUI) Nobody freak... but I am willing to put up as much
 money as necessary to obtain the rights to the Amiga.  The Amiga market
 has been good 
(1-29,Mike Levin) There is value in an Amiga Card.
(1-34,Troy Barlow) Joe, better change your password
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) This is still a formal co folks.  Hang in there a sec 
 longer.
(1-50,Jim Menix)  /ust
(1-105,Jim Drew/UUI) Ahh... woops
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Jim, your line was cut.. re-enter it please.. hit return
 every 60 chars or so.
(1-105,Jim Drew/UUI) sorry about the length.. 
(1-29,Mike Levin) Hey Jim, attract investors!  Assemble a consortium of 
 Amiga developers.
(1-29,Mike Levin) I could think of no better scenario.
(1-105,Jim Drew/UUI) Ok.. well, basically I have a staff of attorneys 
 waiting for tomorrow
(1-39,James Scott) !
(1-105,Jim Drew/UUI) to roll around and see how much it is going to cost
 me...
(1-105,Jim Drew/UUI) I will be damned if they (HP, Sony, take your pick)
 are going to 'rape'
(1-105,Jim Drew/UUI) my 'baby' (aka Amiga).  The Amiga market has been
 very
(1-105,Jim Drew/UUI) generous to us.. time to give some back.  I will be
 talking to other
(1-105,Jim Drew/UUI) developers to see if a mutual public corporation
 would be in the
(1-105,Jim Drew/UUI) interest of the Amiga community.  I think the
 developers (us peoples
(1-105,Jim Drew/UUI) that know the machine) could make this thing fly...
 that's all.  I'm not
(1-105,Jim Drew/UUI) going to give up on you guys... and to make things
 more interesting..
(1-105,Jim Drew/UUI) we have MAC products being introduced... and the
 revenue generated from this
(1-105,Jim Drew/UUI) is going directly into the Amiga community...
 we need this... GA
(1-131,Bob Supak) !
(1-29,Mike Levin) Someone has to spearhead such an effort.
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Any other developer care to comment?
(1-105,Jim Drew/UUI) I would be happy to.
(1-47,Garry Nelson) Do you think majo/send 105 Would you issue a bond for
 this endeavor?
(1-29,Mike Levin) I think yo're the person to do it.
(1-17,MikeTodd-UK) !!!
(1-60,Dean/DKB) I'll have a quick say.
(1-20,MarkM/MOD)   Go for it dean..
(1-60,Dean/DKB) DKB has every intention of staying available in the Amiga
 marketplace. We...
(1-60,Dean/DKB) have been working behind the scenes to try and obtain a
 supply of machines...
(1-60,Dean/DKB) for the US market. We have not yet been succesfull, but
 if we can do it,...
(1-60,Dean/DKB) we will.
(1-60,Dean/DKB) GA
(1-12,IAM-Dale) !
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Dale?
(1-12,IAM-Dale) Optimism has a valuable place sometimes.
(1-12,IAM-Dale) Whether or not you are optimistic, in the worst case
(1-12,IAM-Dale) the Amiga(s) that you already love/own/use will be
(1-12,IAM-Dale) just as good after the sale of C= as before.
(1-61,Jon Bojicic) ?
(1-12,IAM-Dale) It will still be more cost effective for most people
(1-12,IAM-Dale) to continue to use and upgrade those machines than
(1-12,IAM-Dale) to immediately plunge into a new platform.
(1-12,IAM-Dale) I anticipate a fairly strong market for continuing
(1-12,IAM-Dale) support of the Amiga even in the worst case
(1-12,IAM-Dale) scenario of no more Amigas whatsoever.  Heck,
(1-29,Mike Levin) Good comment!  Let's give a boost to Amiga developers.
 It is exactly what is needed now.
(1-12,IAM-Dale) look at how many people continue to use C64s and
(1-105,Jim Drew/UUI) :-)
(1-131,Bob Supak) !
(1-12,IAM-Dale) to buy stuff for them.  Admitedly, small stuff,
(1-12,IAM-Dale) but those are small machines.
(1-12,IAM-Dale) IAM plans to continue product development and
(1-131,Bob Supak) no
(1-12,IAM-Dale) to make neat new stuff available soon.
(1-12,IAM-Dale) ga
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) AT this point, I would like to thank Mike Levin for 
 being our guest here
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) at CompuServe.  I want to apologize to Dean from DKB as
 he was next in the schedule..
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) but was bumped .. I will get him on next (soon).
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) And let you know the date.
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) Please, everyone thank Mike for taking the time to talk
 to us tonight.
(1-36,Paul Idol) THANKS!
(1-35,Cornel Ivanescu) thanx mike
(1-9,Mike Kennedy) thanks!!!!
(1-54,Trent Hawkins) Yeah, Tnx Mike
(1-61,Jon Bojicic) Thanks Mike
(1-131,Bob Supak) Thanks!!!!!
!(1-60,Dean/DKB) THanks Mike!
(1-110,David F. Cattell) Thank you, Mike.

(1-15,Tom Barker) ThanksMike!!!
(1-53,Ray Roberts) THANKS MIKE
(1-32,Kent L.) THANKS Mike.
(1-55,Clay Spence) Thanks Mike!
(1-23,Greg Knapp) thanx mike
(1-67,Doug Miller) thanks
(1-74,Mike Smith) Thanks mike- god bless
(1-45,Grover Helsley) Thanks!
(1-14,Paul) Thanks, Mike!
(1-114,Andrew Farrell) Thank you kindly!
(1-39,James Scott) Thanks Mike
(1-100,BRIAN MORRIS) thanks!
(1-7,Charles Castleberry) thanks
(1-82,Mel Greer) Thanks a lot Mike!!
(1-43,Willie Schreurs) Thanks.  <applause>
(1-73,Hani Yakan) Thanks
(1-109,Nancy Rose) thanks
(1-12,IAM-Dale) Thanks Mike.
(1-3,Don Suhr) Thanks much...
(1-4,Dale Luketich) Thanks Mike!!!!!!
(1-42,Shawn Clabough) :->
(1-83,mark tiramani) thanks!!
(1-93,Mark Sterling) Tanks, Mike
(1-91,John Brozycki) Thank Mike -give em 'ell!
(1-25,Rusty Mills) thanks mike
(1-105,Jim Drew/UUI) Thank you, Mr. Levin.  :-)
(1-5,Herman Stevens) Thanks !
(1-92,Steve Merzena) Thank you very much, Mike!
(1-57,Mike Richard) Thanks loads, Mike...best of luck for you and ALL of
 us!!!
(1-47,Garry Nelson) thanx
(1-52,Tom Jones) bravo
(1-38,Steve Setzer) Thanks Mike
(1-118,Amran Vance) ta very much
(1-103,Raymond R. Fortier) thanks
(1-59,Rodney Wishart) Thanks
(1-44,Joe Clasen) THANKS
(1-46,Harri) Thanks Mike
(1-51,Ezra Palmer-Persen) Thanks Mike, Your Inspiring!
(1-94,EdV) Thanks Mike.
(1-20,MarkM/MOD) We are no in open conference... Mike you are welcome to
 stay as long as your fingers will last. :-)
(1-112,bill arnold) thanks
(1-71,Gene Holmerud) Thank you & glad to hear of a future!

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